tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post8726571097324097251..comments2023-07-21T07:29:52.876-07:00Comments on The Progress of Pilgrimage: Location and Dislocation: Thoughts on Immersion and PilgrimageMartyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12374576843562876501noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-86660534825180731082010-03-25T07:36:23.238-07:002010-03-25T07:36:23.238-07:00Thanks, DeAne -- this helps me get a reading on yo...Thanks, DeAne -- this helps me get a reading on your orientation comment. Check my latest, where I try to spin out insemination/gestation as a possible metaphor. And the task of college teaching as more oriented toward planting seeds, which will then flourish in many different kinds of vocational soil. It seems somehow important for me to get clearer on the difference between theological ed and higher ed, as I'll be soon living it!Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374576843562876501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-62377569093532728522010-03-25T07:07:55.026-07:002010-03-25T07:07:55.026-07:00Marty,
We'll talk more in person. But, I was...Marty,<br /><br />We'll talk more in person. But, I was thinking less about the educational setting and more about theological goals. JZS's "the map is not the territory" always strikes me as correct and yet not so helpful if it implies that a map is therefore not valuable. On the other hand, I do not think that vocation provides anything as specific as a map with the journey marked out; rather our baptismal calling is more like a compass reading that turns our face toward Jesus and toward our neighbors in whom we encounter Jesus. Frankly, in my college teaching my goals are more mundane and must address students whose religious home is other than mine.<br />DeAneL. DeAne Lagerquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13174676624963036976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-7372152284274549332010-03-24T13:35:44.027-07:002010-03-24T13:35:44.027-07:00Renee -- thanks! I do think you're right. Bo...Renee -- thanks! I do think you're right. Both complement one another. And we need both.<br />Interdependence is exactly right. Germination may come first, but I don't want to take the seed analogy too literally. <br />In terms of "getting it right," I do want to pay attention to the differences -- even if subtle -- in the context from which I came (theological ed) and the one to which I'm going (higher ed). So this is a distinction I will keep refining. Thanks for giving me some tools to keep working with!<br />M.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374576843562876501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-87867636220786872092010-03-24T12:35:39.389-07:002010-03-24T12:35:39.389-07:00Thoughts on Formation & Insemination: Is ther...Thoughts on Formation & Insemination: Is there a getting “this right?” If so, does this mean there is a “getting this wrong?” I hope not. For all I see through your words simply does not feel like a “wrong” at all. I believe both insemination and formation can and must exist. Without the sowing (insemination and molding) what would be at hand to form (bloom of seed; pruning to bring forth new life and seed another)? No right, no wrong; simply a consciousness of consciously—active not passive---living; intentionality; watching, feeling, learning the inter-dependence of the two.<br /><br />...just a thought- Ada Renée https://www.blogger.com/profile/13462242901560609832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-15528979275202924232010-03-24T08:53:33.794-07:002010-03-24T08:53:33.794-07:00How about insemination? Lots of talk down here ab...How about insemination? Lots of talk down here about the difference between formation and insemination: molding people into a certain kind of shape or frame and planting a seed -- and letting all flowers bloom! As a seminary professor, formation is more familiar: it's what we do. And what we're supposed to do. But for a college setting, planting a seed may be more appropriate. <br />You would know -- what do you think?<br />And again, thanks for thinking with me on this one. Of course, I'm also trying to change gears myself from seminary to college contexts. I need to get this right.....mstortz@plts.edunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-76290131911217751532010-03-24T06:23:09.568-07:002010-03-24T06:23:09.568-07:00Marty,
In location and dislocation what is needed...Marty,<br /><br />In location and dislocation what is needed is orientation, yes? Getting a bead, as they say, on true north and knowing what one is heading for. There is much to say about that.<br /><br />DeAneL. DeAne Lagerquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13174676624963036976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8523768879604689510.post-23138282103601012642010-03-23T12:50:57.226-07:002010-03-23T12:50:57.226-07:00Your pilgrimage to El Salvador must mean a deep en...Your pilgrimage to El Salvador must mean a deep encounter with this people that has suffered so much, and with the spirit of Oscar Romero, who is so needed always.<br />Blessings.claire bangasserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12380558962103134334noreply@blogger.com